2006-06-22 [Blaithin]: Just make sure you become a student if at all possible so that it gets accepted as a class XD

2006-06-23 [Charybdis]: How many names do classes need, anyway?

2006-06-23 [Blaithin]: Apparently some have made it in with only 1 student so I guess I'm in the safe zone now. All I need is to get the information up.

2006-06-23 [Byne]: I'm working!

2006-06-25 [deleted, gone]: what the hell happend???

2006-06-26 [Panda-monium]: *tilts head* How do you mean?

2006-06-26 [Heathglen]: We're just a bunch of crazy Canadians sitting around talking. What where you expecting?

2006-06-26 [Byne]: Eh?

2006-06-27 [abandonedhouse7 7]: I just want to send a plea out to people - my German conversation teacher (who I love to pieces) will be moving to Canada in September (to Vancouver) and being a British bred Canadian (and useless with most matters) I don't know much (actually nothing) about the Education System and Health system etc in BC. If anyone could please help me/her out I'd really appreciate it. She has two children ages 4 and 12. Sorry for busting in the crazy conversation but we need your help ^.^ Any information at all would be great, thanks! XD

2006-06-27 [Blaithin]: What kind of information are you looking for? Like school and health info for the kids, job infor for her, etc?

2006-06-27 [abandonedhouse7 7]: Yes please ^.^ Her husband has a job over there and they were initally going to move in November after going on holiday there in October, but the contracting company have fast tracked it so any information like you said would be fantastic.

2006-06-27 [Blaithin]: Well for school the kids will be in either playschool or kindergarten and grade 6 or 7 but I'm not sure on the transfers so that could change. She could just go to www.bced.gov.bc.ca/ to see information on the provincial education though. www.gov.bc.ca/healthservices/  Should answer most of her health questions as well :)

2006-06-27 [abandonedhouse7 7]: Thanks very much! ^.^

2006-06-27 [Blaithin]: You're welcome :)

2006-06-28 [Byne]: Hmm...I should ask my mother about that. She's been looking into the schools on Salt Spring Island and such..Seeing as how my new house is out that way. e.e

2006-08-01 [Panda-monium]: Sorry I haven't been here in a while, life's been catching up with me. I am moving in a few days, so I probably won't be able to get this updated until mid August

2006-08-01 [~Brigid~]: Where you moving to? If you don't mind me asking...

2006-08-01 [Panda-monium]: Just a few blocks from where I live now. My mother needs a handi-cap unit.

2006-08-01 [~Brigid~]: I see, I see. I don't envy you, I hate moving, it's awful.

2006-08-07 [Heathglen]: I hate moving too. In fact I rather spend my weekends helping my friends stay put. It's real easy. I just go over to their place and make sure that they do not start loading shit into a truck.

2006-08-07 [~Brigid~]: Sounds like my kind of activity!

2006-08-10 [Byne]: I just got home from camp! Whhoooooo!

2006-08-20 [Piggly_wiggly]: I just got back from cottaging!

2006-08-20 [Heathglen]: Cottaging? How exactly does one cottag? Would it perhaps be like camping only with a building? Near a lake?

2006-08-20 [Piggly_wiggly]: Indeed

2006-08-22 [Byne]: I'm at my new house on Pender ISalnd BC! IT SO BLOODY INCREDIBLE. The bay near my house is the best spot for whale watching, and its where everyone comes to see them. The orcas where within 3-4 meters from us! That's it! IT WAS SO AMAZING!

2006-08-22 [~Brigid~]: Can I come visit? *puppy face* Pleeeease?

2006-08-28 [Byne]: Sure! There are plenty of places to stay on Pender! There are some amazing artists, one jewlery designer in pasrticular who is world renouwned and famous in Europe. >:3 I <3 her stuff.

2006-08-28 [~Brigid~]: Ooooh! Jewellery! I like! That's awesome.

2006-08-28 [Byne]: I know!

2006-09-18 [Panda-monium]: Hey folks, sorry about the long absence. How is everyone?

2006-09-18 [~Brigid~]: I'm pretty peachy. Back at school though.

2006-09-18 [Byne]: School makes me drool. Quite literally. >>;

2006-09-18 [Heathglen]: I wish I was back at school. This working thing sucks. I should just give it up and go live in a tent in the backcountry.

2006-09-18 [Byne]: XD. I enjoy school at times. But right now its just.. tedious..I'm reading a 700 page book for World History, being bored to sleep in Chemistry, confusing myself in Math, making things harder for myself in art by chosing the most complicated thing ever...XD

2006-09-18 [~Brigid~]: That does not sound like a good time. I also enjoy school, but right now I believe myself to be coming down with a cold. I do not feel good at all, so I am really not enjoying my classes...especially my early morning ones.

2006-09-18 [Blaithin]: I would enjoy classes more if my job understood what part time meant and didn't have me working so often and so late heh

2006-09-18 [Heathglen]: I hear ya Blaithin. It was like that for me when I was in school. I was lucky enough to be able to do some of my school work at work. But it's hard to write a 1500 essay when you keep getting interupted.

2006-09-19 [Byne]: XD My parents won't let me get a job util the summer.

2006-09-19 [~Brigid~]: I'm going to try to get back at the public library...library hours are great for when you're in school.

2006-09-20 [Heathglen]: Working in highschool is different then working in college. You don't have class everyday usually so that gives you time to work. when I was highschool, I only worked maybe 9 or 10 hours a week.

2006-09-20 [~Brigid~]: Ok, high school you don't have class everyday or college you don't? Because while I had class everyday highschool, I also have class everyday in college (though it is possible to not have class everyday). I'm just in school for less time while in college. But I didn't work crazy hours while I was at the library during highschool and I didn't work crazy hours at the library last year while I was attending college either.
I'm kinda confused at what you were getting at.

2006-09-20 [Blaithin]: Because you're not in school as much in HS you are able to work more hours. It's hard but it's possible.

2006-09-20 [~Brigid~]: You go to highschool for less time than you do in college? Different.

2006-09-20 [Heathglen]: sorry for the confusion. No, I had class everyday, all day in highschool. In college I usually only went to school four days a week and then not all day. You make your own schedules in post secondary so you can cram lots of classes into a couple of days or you can spread them out. You're only limited in when the courses are offered by the profs. Which can get tricky. I ended up having most of my classes in a couple of days, but I always seemed to have to have one class that didn't fit in and would have to take it on a wed in the middle of the afternoon. Plus it usually ended up only being an hour or something. It was dumb.

2006-09-20 [~Brigid~]: I'm sorry. I totally read some of that stuff wrong. My only excuse is that I'm sick. And have not been sleeping well. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

2006-09-20 [Blaithin]: And I typed mine wrong. I meant that you're not in class in HS as much as you are in college. My mistake heh

2006-09-20 [~Brigid~]: The second time I read it, I understood what you were trying to say. I really need to learn to read...

2006-09-21 [Byne]: @_@

2006-09-21 [~Brigid~]: What are the big woopy eyes for?

2006-09-22 [Byne]: So much to read. :x

2006-09-22 [~Brigid~]: I understand.

2006-09-24 [Byne]: 3 I now have 4 foster children. One in Bangladesh, Peru, Kenya andd.....The Philipeans (sp?)

2006-09-24 [~Brigid~]: That's awesome. I have a cousin (or two, I think) that live in the Philippians. Nova's such a cutie! I wish she was here though.

2006-09-25 [Byne]: Coolio~ I have....Relatives in BC? >_>;

2006-09-25 [Panda-monium]: My uncle and aunt and two cousins live in PEI

2006-09-25 [Byne]: I have relatives in Ireland and Scotland as well.

2006-09-25 [~Brigid~]: Yeah, an aunt and her family. I've also got family in the Czech Republic and Austria...some in Scotland too, no doubt, but I don't really know them.

2006-09-25 [Byne]: Cooilo.

2006-09-25 [~Brigid~]: Yeah. I just wish I knew my Scottish family because then I could go stay with them for a few months.

2006-09-25 [Byne]: That'd be neat. I...Really dislike Commmmmmmmm Tech. BLEH.

2006-09-27 [Heathglen]: What on earth is Com Tech?

2006-09-28 [Byne]: Communication Technology. Its with computers, and photoshop, and flash, and yeah.

2006-09-28 [Heathglen]: and you hate it? It sounds really cool. You can be a web designer if you know things like photoshop and flash. My roommate is one and she can do the coolest things! She even put the pac-man game in one of her websites as an easter egg. I wish I could do stuff like that.

2006-09-29 [Byne]: Its not the stuff we're learning. Its the teacher. He can't teach. Heck, I know more about photoshop than he does. And you can enver hear him either. We asked him to speak up, but he wouldn't. He ARGH. >_<

2006-09-29 [~Brigid~]: Sounds like when my dad had to teach my class computer stuff...most of us knew more than he did. Except he really can teach, ususally.

2006-09-29 [Byne]: e_e Yeah. It really sad. He annoys the heck out of all of us. All of us, I say.

2006-11-02 [Byne]: Emo. ._.

2006-11-03 [Panda-monium]: Huh, well Stephen Harper is making his first attempts at taking away Gay Marriage. Passing a bill that allows for Gays and lesbians to have a union, but are not allowed to call it marriage.

2006-11-03 [Dil*]: stupid asshole. yargh.

2006-11-03 [Byne]: Well....That'd make the Christian church and all happy, and gay and lesbians would still have all the rights they would have if they were 'married'. Its what they did in Britain.

2006-11-03 [Byne]: Its basically marriage, just not called marriage. o_o

2006-11-03 [Blaithin]: I'm surprised it's taken him so long. When he was running that's one of the major things he used here. Sadly it's also why so many here voted for him.

2006-11-03 [Heathglen]: You know, I don't really care what side people or on, or wether it's good or bad. I figure that we've had this debate, the law was pass and now it's done. Can't we just get on with things and leave the issues that have already been taken care of alone? Why drag it all up again?

2006-11-03 [Byne]: I have to agree with you. I don't Harper should drag this all up again. And I think the church needs to get down off of their high horse. They say God created each and everyone of us. So if you follow that philosophy God made gay people....o_o;

2006-11-03 [Panda-monium]: It is a problem, because it's the exact same thing they did with coloured people in America. "seperate but equal" This Video really explains it well I think http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfr4W7ArdPI&NR

2006-11-04 [Dil*]: yeah, screw them, they don't have the monopoly on the concept of marriage.

2006-11-04 [Byne]: o_o;;

2006-11-04 [Panda-monium]: Sorry Tainted, is this line of conversation making you uncomfortable?

2006-11-04 [Byne]: No. I don't really have a problem with Harper changin the gay marriage to a union...It'd make my preist stop ranting (its so annoying!) and they'd all still have the same rights that married couples get. But either way..I don't really care. oO;

2006-11-04 [Dil*]: Dil is vehemently pro-gay marriage.

hf gay marriage - explains exactly why gays should be able to marry.

2006-11-04 [Panda-monium]: Yeah, but that's like saying, a black person and a white person marrying should be considered a union. It's this whole idea of segregation, where because you are straight you get to take the easy way, and if you're gay you have to do it the hard way, and that just isn't fair. I mean if two gay men or women, find a priest or pastor who will marry them they should be allowed that right.

2006-11-04 [Dil*]: most definately.

2006-11-04 [Panda-monium]: As well, if a woman was in the hospital and her husband had to make a life or death decision he could just say he was her husband, and he wouldn't have to show a marriage liscence, if you're a gay couple you have to have a piece of paper, now the most logical place to keep something like that is a safety deposit box, but the doctor requires you to show it in order to make a decision about your spouses health, so what if your wife or husband was dying and found them ont he floor in your home so you drove them hurriedly to the hospital and you had to make a decision and you had 30 minutes and if you didn't get this piece of paper you would have to phone their closest relative to make the decision instead.

2006-11-05 [Byne]: o_o Hm.... That's retarded.

2006-11-05 [Panda-monium]: Yes, yes it is.

2006-11-06 [Heathglen]: If the church doesn't want to marry gays, that's just fine with me. they have the right to have their believes repected. a gay couple could just have a civil service instead. the judge at town hall can do just a good of job marring them as a pastor would. If they did it this way it would also help keep a clear line of separation between church and state. something the Americans seem to have a bit of trouble with.

2006-11-06 [Byne]: Yep. I agreeeee. I'm not a fan of Americans in general. I have met some who I like...And I can't really put all Americans into my dislike category..But..Yeah..I ain't a fan of the States.

2006-11-06 [Panda-monium]: I don't think a priest or pastor should HAVE to marry them, but gay couples should have the RIGHT to if they find one who will.

2006-11-07 [Dil*]: The left isn't argueing to force priests/churches to marry gays, but several churches/priests wouldn't mind joining a gay couple in marriage.

2006-11-07 [Panda-monium]: exactly, Dil!

2006-11-07 [Heathglen]: exactly. And that's they way it should be. If a church wants to marry them; fine. If not; also fine. Just as long as the goverment gives married status to gay couples, every thing is fine.

2006-11-07 [Panda-monium]: Right, but that's not happening in America, and Harper is about to change it in Canada, so it's not so fine...

2006-11-07 [Byne]: I think Harper is going to be kicked out next election. Between shying out of the Kyoto, messing with the fishing, doing something to trust funds...Siding with Bush...Ehm...This whole gay marriage... Yeah. O_o

2006-11-07 [Asrun]: <.<Someone just said on my photo page "pretty hot 4 a canadian..." wtf.. ALL canadians are smoking. :D Rawr

2006-11-07 [Blaithin]: haha

2006-11-07 [Dil*]: damn straight, canadian girls are teh sex! XD

2006-11-08 [Byne]: I was in Costa Rica for a bit, and we had two Costa Rican guys say we were the most beautiful girls they'd met, and one of them dumped his girlfriend so he was available for one of my clss mates. >>; She's going back soon.

2006-11-08 [Asrun]: Can't say I've ever had that...

2006-11-08 [Dil*]: Wow. Hmmmm...in Costa Rica Dil shall get the worship she deserves. Intrigueing.

2006-11-08 [Byne]: I miss Costa Rica so much. ;-;

2006-11-08 [Heathglen]: "Harper kicked out at next election." Tainted, you wouldn't happen to be from the east would you?

2006-11-08 [Blaithin]: Heh, I'm not from the east and I thoroughly hope he gets the boot.

2006-11-09 [Byne]: East? I'm in Ontario. Soon to be rectified. I'm originally from B.C. I'll be living on Pender Island in the summer now.

2006-11-09 [Asrun]: Boooo... Ontario. >P .....*lives in Ontario* :B Not so bad.. Moving to Toronto hopefully next year.. Only for a year though. :P

2006-11-09 [Byne]: I live in teh GTA. Lots of smog. :x

2006-11-10 [Asrun]: yesh, but lots of stuff.. Plus my school is there. :/

2006-11-10 [Byne]: I vant to go to Queens or U BC. I dunno yet. I still got a few years to decide if I decide not to graduate a year early. oO;

2006-11-10 [Dil*]: I'm at UBC.

2006-11-10 [Byne]: Really? Do you love it, or do you love it?

2006-11-10 [Heathglen]: Is UBC in Vancouver or Victoria?

2006-11-10 [Dil*]: Vancouver.

I'm in sciences, so I'm having a bad time. It's very hard. I entered with a 91% average and now I'm barely passing.

2006-11-10 [Dil*]: okay, fine, I slack off too >.> XD

2006-11-11 [Asrun]: Go to OCAD like me. :( No one ever goes to my school.

2006-11-11 [Byne]: I'm thinking of going into UBC in the sciences. More bio orientated though. What are you studing in the sciences? And crap I need to pull my marks up then. I got a 89% average last year. o_o;;

2006-11-11 [Dil*]: most first year science students take most of the same courses.

2006-11-11 [Byne]: Ah. Do you think I stand a chance of getting into UBC? I got a 90 in grade 11 bio, and I'm getting an 85 in chem right now... o_o;;

2006-11-11 [Dil*]: the minimun to get into sciences at UBC for when I applied was 89% average with 2 science scores, one math score and one english score. I think now they just look at 1 science score, one math score, one english score and one other provincially examinable course score. But I think it's still at 89% for entrance (with the finals of 4 grades of provincially examinable courses that I've listed)

2006-11-11 [Panda-monium]: wow, I wish I was even close to that smart. I am going to UofT

2006-11-11 [Dil*]: U of T is better than UBC actually.

2006-11-11 [Panda-monium]: well you don't need any 89% average. Last year the lowest mark admitted into the bio program was a 67% What program are you in?

2006-11-11 [Dil*]: faculty of science.

2006-11-11 [Panda-monium]: I don't think I quite understand what you mean by that.

2006-11-11 [Dil*]: ...we have faculties...faculty of commerce, faculty of engineering, foods and agriculture. All of those faculties have different requirements for entrance.

2006-11-11 [Panda-monium]: right, same as any university, so why is UBC's so high and U of T's isn't? Although they require six 4U courses.

2006-11-11 [Dil*]: Well, engineering at UBC requires 82%, commerce is very hard to get into (it's not all about marks), foods/agriculture, I'm not all that sure. Arts is in the 78-80s range I think.

2006-11-11 [Panda-monium]: U of T isn't that bad. If it was I'd be screwed. But after I retake english I should have about an 80 average, and I am retaking Bio and Chem next semester. I only did badly in English because my mom got sick at the end of the semester.

2006-11-11 [Heathglen]: UBC is a very popular school, but they only have limited space, so they only take top marks. U of T is much bigger so they have more space for more average people.

If you eager to learn, you will always be able to find a school that will take you.

2006-11-11 [Panda-monium]: *nods* I don't know what UBC is to be honest.

2006-11-12 [Byne]: University of British Columbia situated in Vancouver. Amazing campus. One thing I love about my school is that we have an external studies program that gives us work experaince and the oppertunity to travel to places we normally wouldn't go....And its manditory to get your bronze duke of ed.

2006-11-12 [Panda-monium]: Ahh, alright.

2006-11-12 [Byne]: -Twirls.-

2006-11-12 [Heathglen]: bronze duke of ed? Really? Just to get in? that's incredluouse! It's not easy for many people to get. It took me a couple years to get my gold standard. for me it wasn't that hard, but many people don't know much about camping and such. How are they suppose to do the expodistion part?

2006-11-13 [Byne]: You have to have it to graduate from my school. They do it with everyone. We have an office that does it with us and such.

2006-11-14 [Heathglen]: really. well, at least you'll get some use out of yours them. Mine has yet to come in handy. In fact, I've met very few people who even know about it.
but hey, it wasn't a complete wast of time, I did get to shake hands with a Prince after all.

2006-11-14 [Byne]: Yeah. I'm not sure that I'm going to go for gold, although I probably will. Right now I'm working on my silver. And Universities have started to look at it now. It looks good on your resume and applications. >3

2006-11-14 [abandonedhouse7 7]: DofE looks good in the UK too, only my major Sport is horses and nothing else and I was told I had to have Pony Club Grade C to have horse riding as my major sport. Which sucks, cos I don't do Pony Club. I only do National Dressage and Arab Horse Society shows and about 3 National Championships each year, you know? >.< Apparently it was because I don't jump.

2006-11-15 [Byne]: That's retarded. I swim competitivly and play soccer.

2006-11-15 [abandonedhouse7 7]: :( I know. It's probably just as well though or I'd be doing even worse in my exams than I already am ><

2006-11-15 [Heathglen]: well, I have as yet to meet an employer that knows about DofE.

that's sucks about the Pony club thing. Dressage is a sport! You practise, compete and win prizes. If dressage isn't a sport then neither is any type of dance.

2006-11-15 [Byne]: I know a lot of girls who ride and such. And employers don't look so muhc at DofE, but I know Universities do. Otherwise my school wouldn't make us do it. They're all about having a 98% graduate rate and a 100% of those 98% get into their University of choice.

2006-11-19 [Asrun]: OCAD!!! >.<

2006-11-19 [Panda-monium]: wait a minute, Tainted, I know this is going to sound anal, but I have to ask you not to use the term 'retarded' in that manner. Thank you.

2006-11-19 [Heathglen]: Retarded: adj, n: Held back; hindered.
Sorry panda, but in this conversation, phoenix was talking about not being able to use dressage as a sport. Therefore, she is indeed being hindered or held back. Tainted used the word in the proper context. Although 'retarding' probably would have been more correct.

2006-11-19 [Byne]: S'okay though Panda. I know saying retarded is politically incorrect...But I tend to use that word a lot. I also always seem to be the brunt of the word. Tonight I was called retarded 10 times? -Shrugs.-

2006-11-19 [Panda-monium]: It's not so much the political incorrectness of the world, but just that when used incorrectly is a personal matter to me, as it implies people with handicaps are lesser or negative. It's the same as "That's gay" and how you choose to express yourself is your choice, but I would prefer if niether were used on my wiki. And I really hate being a pain in the arse, so I apologize for any inconvience that may cause.

2006-11-19 [Byne]: Okay. Never ment to offend anyone. ^^;

2006-11-19 [Dil*]: Hmm, I'm extremely liberal yet I still say 'gay' and 'retarded'....bad habits eh..

2006-11-19 [Byne]: Exactly. I normally slap a hand across my mouth when I say gay. Generally I end up using retarded intead of gay. oO;

2006-11-19 [Panda-monium]: >.< How human kind finds to express itself

2006-11-19 [Dil*]: I don't find homosexuals bad at all, or think less of them. If anything, I like them more than normal people! (which is a kind of an ironic reverse discrimination).

but I still say: 'gay' and 'retarded'...as just figures of speech, like 'god', you have never met a more fanatic atheist, and I still say 'goddamnit' or 'for the love god'...I'm trying to adjust it to saying: 'for the love of lack of god'..

2006-11-19 [Panda-monium]: well, I don't really get offended when someone uses gay inappropriately, but when you say things like that, you are promoting an anti-gay idealism, and what you permit you promote. As well I always thought certain people would not like me because I was gay, and the only basis I had for that, was because they said "that's gay". So even though it doesn't affect me anymore, I know there are people who aren't as comfortable with their sexuality yet, hearing things like that, and being more afraid that they should have to be.

2006-11-19 [Dil*]: Yeah, I totally understand why you'd be against it.

Because "homophobia is gay" :P

(inappropriate joking...I apologize in advance)

2006-11-19 [Byne]: I've never used 'gay' in any context to discriminate against them. I have several friends who are either gay or bisexual and I have no problem at all with them or anything. I'm pro-gay marriage and I get annoyed at my pastor for being all " ANTIGAY ANTIGAY!" I am not someone who is normally disrespectful, discriminatory etc..Although I can get rather discriminatory against men in general. I'm a bit of a feminist. I almost took a guys head off for saying that its a woman's fault for being raped or sexually assaulted. o_o

2006-11-19 [Panda-monium]: *laughs* Like I said, it's not saying gay that bothers me, it's the homophobia behind the whole word being used inappropriately, and how it affects others, who are just coming into their own. I am more than grown up enough to not let idle words affect me, but a 14 year old, who is questioning their sexuality is not.

2006-11-19 [Dil*]: I would fucking take a guy's head off for saying that.

2006-11-19 [Panda-monium]: for saying what?

2006-11-19 [Dil*]: "I almost took a guys head off for saying that its a woman's fault for being raped or sexually assaulted. o_o" - tainted

2006-11-19 [Panda-monium]: wow, I definitely can't see that anywhere in the comments o.o I think I am going crazy, but yeah, I'd have ripped off his testicles and made him a unic.

2006-11-20 [Byne]: Sadly he was across the boarder from me.

2006-11-20 [Heathglen]: Okay, let me just say that I think the way words evolve is fasinating! Some words like 'gay' meant something totally different not 50 years ago. But it's not all downhill. ex/ Punk is a name given to inmates that were raped alot. Now alot of teens are proud to call them selfs Punks. It doesn't mean the same thing anymore.

I'm not sure where I was going with that... I guess I'm just trying to say that you can't get to hung up on words because over time the meanings change. You just have to keep it all in context.

2006-11-21 [Panda-monium]: Oh, I know, I don't really, it's just, it can be really detrimental to those who aren't comfortable with themselves, and I was there once, so I try to point it out to people.

2006-11-21 [Dil*]: oh geesh. UBC is nuts. The average mark for a student who goes there is 88%. no wonder I'm barely passing XD (my slacking off and all)

2006-11-21 [Byne]: e_e;; UBC and Queen's are me favourite choices for Unviersity right now.

2006-11-21 [Heathglen]: Okay, here's a question for all you smart University types. Why is the University of Western Ontario (Western U for short) in London? Last time I checked London was in the eastern part of Ontario. Was someone holding the map upside down or something?

2006-11-21 [Panda-monium]: I have no idea why Western is in London, I live rather close to London, and have been to the University, and never questioned it. Odd.

2006-11-22 [Dil*]: No clue.

2006-11-22 [Byne]: I have no clueee~ I know my bro is applying there though. o_o;

2006-12-07 [Asrun]: No clue. I go to OCAD. Which is now a university. Yay! I get a degree at the sacrifice of talent. :/

2006-12-08 [Byne]: OCAD is the other art school correct? o_o

2006-12-08 [Asrun]: The "other"? :P OCAD is the original Canadian art school. :3 I lurves it. For the most part... Everyone hates their school every so often...

2006-12-08 [Byne]: Sorry. I know of OCAD, but I've never been there. I live very close to Sheridan, and have had several tours of the school so...Yeah. o_o

2006-12-08 [Heathglen]: What does one do with a degree from OCAD? Do you go on to be a career basket weaver? 90% of the people I know going to ACAD (which is the same as OCAD, just in Alberta) don't really know what they want to do. Course, I guess I'm not really one to talk. I've got a diploma in Broadcasting from MRC and am currently working at a hotel...

2006-12-09 [Asrun]: Tainted Waters: Sheridan sucks. I went there too. :O I live in Burlington (even further than you from T.O.) and I commute there every day. x.x;

Heathglen: No, actually OCAD has fostered a great deal of 'celebrity' designers. Degrees here are often focused on the design stream, Illustration, Graphic Design, Advertising. Many of the top designers in Canada either went to or taught at OCAD.

2006-12-09 [Byne]: From what I've seen and heard of Sheridan, its a great school. o_o

2006-12-09 [Heathglen]: Okay, graphic design and advertising, I get it. I guess my out look on ACAD is skewed because the people I know how go there tend to be, well, a little weird. Sculpters and the like. But hey, what ever floats your boat.

2006-12-10 [Charybdis]: Yeah, I've heard that Sheridan is good as well. :?

2006-12-10 [Byne]: Yeah...I've been told Sheridan is a really good school. o_o

2006-12-12 [Asrun]: Tainted Water: Sheridan's reputation is really suffering. They teach more along the line so technical skills, rather than conceptual, which is what gets you jobs... So, even though you may come out of there with amazing drawing skills, you may not get jobs because your concepts will be lacking. Plus, everyone there is snotty and uptight... :/ Even people who went to Sheridan and teach at my school say that. And the adminstration sucks. Big time...

Heathglen: Well, that's people's choice. Not everything people choose for post secondary is to make tons of money. I for one, took illustration because I enjoy illustration. It makes me happy. I suppose it's the same way for artists. And what's "weird" to you, may be perfectly normal to another person. If you've never explored the arts and what it can bring to your life, then there's really no point on commenting from the outside in.

2006-12-12 [Byne]: Ah. I see...Thanks about that.

2006-12-13 [Heathglen]: Hey now... there's no need to get hostile. I just didn't know what a person did once they got out of a/ocad. You answered that question. Point for you. And belive you me, I know about getting an education in an industry that doesn't make money. Did't I say that I have a diploma in Broadcasting? Do you want to know how much I made as a TV Cameraman shooting commercials? Do you? Less then $10 an hour! I have discovered that a person can not live on that.
As for 'never explored the arts', I'll admit, I don't have any drawing talent, but I do play a couple musical instruments. I would think that most people here would agree that music is a form of art. So yes, I do know the joy and statisfaction that art can bring.
To reiterate, I was just asking a question. (albet in my own devil-may-care fashion.) I got an answer so I shrugged my shoulders and said 'guess i was wrong'. (Although I'm guessing you didn't read it that way, but that's the way it was meant.)

Side note: Employers don't care where you went to school. All they really care about it that you do in fact have an education of some kind. Even though I only had a two year college diploma, I started out right along side people who had 4 year degrees from Ryerson. I'm sure Sheridan is a fine school, if you people want to go there, then go. Because it's the piece of paper that's important, not where it came from. 

2006-12-13 [Byne]: e_e I'm considering Queen's, and UBC. I want to go into the sciences. o_o

2006-12-13 [Asrun]: Heathglen: I'm sorry, but you were quite offensive when you first asked what does one do with a diploma from OCAD and asked if it was "basket weaving". 

And the piece of paper does not matter in these fields, it's your portfolio. Employers don't even look at your marks or schools.

To me, that's a real insult

2006-12-13 [~Brigid~]: I am soo excited to have snow for Christmas this year!

2006-12-13 [Heathglen]: Well I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend. As for what employers look for... well, we work in two different fields...

Moving on: I too am exicted for snow! We got a big dump last week, but now the chinook is here and it's all melting. Which is nice, cause it's warm out, but I wish that the snow would stay so that my friends and I could go camping. (Yes, you read that right; I like to go camping when there's snow. Better to sleep on soft fluffy snow then frozen ground.)

2006-12-13 [Byne]: Asrun, my mum is applying for OCAD. :x

2006-12-13 [Asrun]: Tainted: As a student or faculty? :3 We have students of all different ages. One of my friends from 1st year was 30 at the time, so he's 33 now... And a few people in my lectures are well into their 50's. It's pretty diverse here.

Camping in the snow?? omg... X_______X I'd freeze. I'm always cold. I've camped in october here, and that was codl enough thank you. :p

2006-12-14 [~Brigid~]: I hate when there's no snow for Christmas! For a couple years we had frost! That's right, frost! For Christmas! I was so completely disappointed...it was sad, I almost cried. What can I say? I love my snow!

2006-12-14 [Byne]: As a student. My mother sculpts and paints. :3

2006-12-14 [Asrun]: Tainted Waters: She'd be in the fine arts then. :I I don't know many people in that area. I'm in the big cube.

2006-12-14 [Byne]: Ah. -Nods.- She's discouraging herself though. She doesn't know if she cn manage full classes and four kids and such. o_o

2006-12-14 [Asrun]: There's part-time student options, or non-degree where you can pick and choose your courses. :)

2006-12-15 [Byne]: Ou..I'll tell her. Thanks!

2007-03-25 [Panda-monium]: Hey you guys. Long time no chat.

2007-03-25 [Byne]: I know. o_o Anyone here a Queen's of UBC student?

2007-03-25 [Panda-monium]: Not I.

2007-03-25 [Byne]: Those are my two top choices for University....And I read the latest Mclean's and students rating their school life etc...UBC came lower down on the list than I thought it would.. So I wanted some information straight from the mouths of students. :3

2007-03-25 [Heathglen]: You should ignore the stuff in the Maclean's guide about the number of doctoral candidates on staff and about class size and the number of books available in the library and any other irrelevant information. You must read between the lines. When you're reading the listings, look for the important stuff. ex/ Best female to male ratio: University of Victoria.
Best male to female ratio: Carleton U in Ottawa.
Best nightlife on campus: Lakehead U in Thunder Bay; there isn't any nightlife available in town, so the campus is your only option.
Best nightlife off campus: McGill U in Montreal
Most attractive campus: U of Saskatoon; sandstone building beside the river.
Least attractive campus: York U. (Runner up: Mount Royal College in Calgary; done in bad 1970 style with stairways that lead to nowhere, couchs that look soft but aren't and a third floor hallways that have been turnes into storage for extra tables and chairs so you find yourself having to climb over them in order to get to your 9 am lecture.)
The final and most important step to pick a school is to toss out the Maclean's guide and think: do you want to go to school in you're home town where you can live with your parents rent-free, thereby leaving you with of disposable income? Or do you want to go school somewhere really, really, really, far away form your family, so that you can have fun getting into all kinds of trouble?
Remember, the point of of going to University is to have a little fun while you're still young enough to recover the next morning.

2007-03-25 [Byne]: Thanks Heath. X3

2007-03-25 [Panda-monium]: New poll.